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		<link>http://newgracechristian.org/index.php/2010/01/infatuation/comment-page-1/#comment-197</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

I appreciate your comment but the intent of this article was something other than you expect.  I do a great deal of exposition of Scripture and could do so here but certainly you are not discounting practical advice?  Is it always necessary to annotate everything that is written with Scripture references?  Some articles and books I have read use Scripture to lend credibility to concepts that are patently untrue (i.e. they misuse it.)  The truth of God is true in any context and some actually teach wise things that they have no idea are also Biblical.  You are right though, unless one is armed with the truth of His revelation, we are all helpless.  My article here was intended to sound a warning based on experience and observation which, when filtered by the His Spirit, can also be valuable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>I appreciate your comment but the intent of this article was something other than you expect.  I do a great deal of exposition of Scripture and could do so here but certainly you are not discounting practical advice?  Is it always necessary to annotate everything that is written with Scripture references?  Some articles and books I have read use Scripture to lend credibility to concepts that are patently untrue (i.e. they misuse it.)  The truth of God is true in any context and some actually teach wise things that they have no idea are also Biblical.  You are right though, unless one is armed with the truth of His revelation, we are all helpless.  My article here was intended to sound a warning based on experience and observation which, when filtered by the His Spirit, can also be valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: paul meyer</title>
		<link>http://newgracechristian.org/index.php/2010/01/infatuation/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>paul meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are all involved in a spiritual battle for the heart mind and soul.   Although your article
is a good one, what people need when they are in the heat of battle  is Scripture.

Lets put some references in here.... tools that are reliable.   Scripture is dynamic enough and three demensional and 100 people standing around it might view it  from 100 different view points, all of them accurate and none of them contradictory.

When you go into battle, I suggest that the weapons that you take with you should be scripture

There are two scriptures that come into miind...  These will stick with the Christian soldier long after they have forgotten a particular sermon.

. 1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour

Whole Chapter) 
21.2 Corinthians 10:4
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)


James 4:7
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all involved in a spiritual battle for the heart mind and soul.   Although your article<br />
is a good one, what people need when they are in the heat of battle  is Scripture.</p>
<p>Lets put some references in here&#8230;. tools that are reliable.   Scripture is dynamic enough and three demensional and 100 people standing around it might view it  from 100 different view points, all of them accurate and none of them contradictory.</p>
<p>When you go into battle, I suggest that the weapons that you take with you should be scripture</p>
<p>There are two scriptures that come into miind&#8230;  These will stick with the Christian soldier long after they have forgotten a particular sermon.</p>
<p>. 1 Peter 5:8<br />
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour</p>
<p>Whole Chapter)<br />
21.2 Corinthians 10:4<br />
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)</p>
<p>James 4:7<br />
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you</p>
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		<title>By: paul meyer</title>
		<link>http://newgracechristian.org/index.php/2010/01/infatuation/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>paul meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are all involved in a spiritual battle for the heart mind and soul.   Although your article
is a good one, what people need when they are in the heat of battle  is Scripture.

Lets put some references in here.... tools that are reliable.   Scripture is dynamic enough and three demensional and 100 people standing around it might view it  from 100 different view points, all of them accurate and none of them contradictory.

When you go into battle, I suggest that the weapons that you take with you should be scripture

There are two scriptures that come into miind...  These will stick with the Christian soldier long after they have forgotten a particular sermon.

. 1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour

James 4:7
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all involved in a spiritual battle for the heart mind and soul.   Although your article<br />
is a good one, what people need when they are in the heat of battle  is Scripture.</p>
<p>Lets put some references in here&#8230;. tools that are reliable.   Scripture is dynamic enough and three demensional and 100 people standing around it might view it  from 100 different view points, all of them accurate and none of them contradictory.</p>
<p>When you go into battle, I suggest that the weapons that you take with you should be scripture</p>
<p>There are two scriptures that come into miind&#8230;  These will stick with the Christian soldier long after they have forgotten a particular sermon.</p>
<p>. 1 Peter 5:8<br />
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour</p>
<p>James 4:7<br />
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Chronister</title>
		<link>http://newgracechristian.org/index.php/2010/01/infatuation/comment-page-/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Chronister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should soon be posting a message I preached on Ephesians 5:22-33.  It&#039;s in audio format and not written.  I think I speak better than I write (at least it&#039;s easier.)  It should be up within the week and I write this in early December, 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should soon be posting a message I preached on Ephesians 5:22-33.  It&#8217;s in audio format and not written.  I think I speak better than I write (at least it&#8217;s easier.)  It should be up within the week and I write this in early December, 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Chronister</title>
		<link>http://newgracechristian.org/index.php/2010/01/infatuation/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Chronister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The page is certainly willed to use as you please.  I don&#039;t copyright anything that i do.  Help yourself to any of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The page is certainly willed to use as you please.  I don&#8217;t copyright anything that i do.  Help yourself to any of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Whennen</title>
		<link>http://newgracechristian.org/index.php/2010/01/infatuation/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Whennen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written Brian.

Blessings
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written Brian.</p>
<p>Blessings<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://newgracechristian.org/index.php/2010/01/infatuation/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 06:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a certain amount of self interest in everything we do but I&#039;d hesitate to suggest that men provide financial security purely on that basis.  As we grow in Christ, we do learn to love self sacrificially however flawed the motive.

I generally have a problem with simple categories for human behavior such as the &quot;Five Love Languages&quot; because we are so complicated that no one tool fits us very well.  On the other hand, I will take a look at the book to see what I can glean.  It&#039;s been a long time since I read it.

We are currently looking at providing podcasts.  We will need to find someone who will stay on top of it and make it happen.  Our web site has an archive of some of the previous years work that you can download.  It would help if it was video and audio and that is another goal.

Thanks for your kind words and intelligent analysis.  Learning to deny ourselves and follow Jesus is a lifelong task isn&#039;t it.

warmly,
Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a certain amount of self interest in everything we do but I&#8217;d hesitate to suggest that men provide financial security purely on that basis.  As we grow in Christ, we do learn to love self sacrificially however flawed the motive.</p>
<p>I generally have a problem with simple categories for human behavior such as the &#8220;Five Love Languages&#8221; because we are so complicated that no one tool fits us very well.  On the other hand, I will take a look at the book to see what I can glean.  It&#8217;s been a long time since I read it.</p>
<p>We are currently looking at providing podcasts.  We will need to find someone who will stay on top of it and make it happen.  Our web site has an archive of some of the previous years work that you can download.  It would help if it was video and audio and that is another goal.</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind words and intelligent analysis.  Learning to deny ourselves and follow Jesus is a lifelong task isn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>warmly,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>By: William Newcomer</title>
		<link>http://newgracechristian.org/index.php/2010/01/infatuation/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>William Newcomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 08:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

I was referred to you and your ministry by former members of Changepoint.  The referral came with adulation for your messages and inspiration.  I have listened to one of the podcasts in August and read through the sermon &quot;Infatuation&quot;.  I must say in the case of the latter, it is refreshing to hear a minister frankly deal with this issue.

While generalizing usually gets us in trouble, empirical evidence would suggest that in the infatuation phase of a relationship, as you suggest, most men are looking for a sexual relationship and most women are looking for security.  As we live our lives, we discovered that finding a woman whose primary focus in the relationship is on maintaining a high level of emotional and physical interdependence throughout the marriage, or finding a man whose wants a long term platonic relationship and is driven by providing security for love ones is, as you say, unrealistic and imagined!

It would seem however, for the most part, that men continue to provide the financial security out of necessity and self interest whereas women interest in the emotional and physical aspect wains fairly quickly.  

Prior to my marriage, my father told me of the story of the couple who placed a cup next to their bed after marriage.  Every time they made love during the first 2 years of their marriage, they put a dime in the cup.  At the end of the two years, they agreed going forward to take a dollar out of the cup every time they made love.  Twenty years later, there was still money in the cup.

I guess that must be what you meant when you ended with:  &quot;Actually survival means accepting that suffering is part of life for everyone. Jesus suffered and so will you. Pain is not an enemy. It is a tool and when handled properly will shape our hearts towards good character and solid maturity.&quot;

I would love to have you drill down in another sermon on this subject played against Gary Chapman&#039;s &quot;Five Love Languages&quot;.  Would matching similar love languages as a tool during courtship, span the abyss that seems to separate Men from Mars and Women from Venus?

Lastly, is there a chance that you will resume providing podcasts of your sermons for those whose work prevents them from attending your church?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>I was referred to you and your ministry by former members of Changepoint.  The referral came with adulation for your messages and inspiration.  I have listened to one of the podcasts in August and read through the sermon &#8220;Infatuation&#8221;.  I must say in the case of the latter, it is refreshing to hear a minister frankly deal with this issue.</p>
<p>While generalizing usually gets us in trouble, empirical evidence would suggest that in the infatuation phase of a relationship, as you suggest, most men are looking for a sexual relationship and most women are looking for security.  As we live our lives, we discovered that finding a woman whose primary focus in the relationship is on maintaining a high level of emotional and physical interdependence throughout the marriage, or finding a man whose wants a long term platonic relationship and is driven by providing security for love ones is, as you say, unrealistic and imagined!</p>
<p>It would seem however, for the most part, that men continue to provide the financial security out of necessity and self interest whereas women interest in the emotional and physical aspect wains fairly quickly.  </p>
<p>Prior to my marriage, my father told me of the story of the couple who placed a cup next to their bed after marriage.  Every time they made love during the first 2 years of their marriage, they put a dime in the cup.  At the end of the two years, they agreed going forward to take a dollar out of the cup every time they made love.  Twenty years later, there was still money in the cup.</p>
<p>I guess that must be what you meant when you ended with:  &#8220;Actually survival means accepting that suffering is part of life for everyone. Jesus suffered and so will you. Pain is not an enemy. It is a tool and when handled properly will shape our hearts towards good character and solid maturity.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would love to have you drill down in another sermon on this subject played against Gary Chapman&#8217;s &#8220;Five Love Languages&#8221;.  Would matching similar love languages as a tool during courtship, span the abyss that seems to separate Men from Mars and Women from Venus?</p>
<p>Lastly, is there a chance that you will resume providing podcasts of your sermons for those whose work prevents them from attending your church?</p>
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